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Scott Tucker's avatar

Great episode. But I would push back on the “92%” claim that Inez makes near the end about hiring diversity since 2020. As far as I know that article was debunked.

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Dudley Newright's avatar

The Bloomberg thing? I'd be interested to read the debunking.

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M.B.R.'s avatar

I remember an episode on The American Conservative podcast a while back in which Helen Andrews explained how the 92% claim was misleading. It was convincing the way she explained it, esp. because she would normally be into such claims about DEI taking over everything. (I can't remember the episode; it was around the time when the Bloomberg article came out.)

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norstadt's avatar

Vague claims of something authoritative -- debunking -- is that the new reverse psychology?

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Dudley Newright's avatar

I haven't looked it up yet but Helen Andrews is legit.

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Scott Tucker's avatar

The gist is that the BB article looked at net jobs, not hires explicitly. So yeah, minorities and women were probably beneficiaries. But if a white guy retired and another took his place, that white hire wasn’t caught in the analysis.

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Scott Tucker's avatar

Nope, check my follow-up comment for details

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norstadt's avatar

Quote Bloomberg writing something wrong then.

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Scott Tucker's avatar

"94% went to POC" is wrong. It's a "net" figure. If a white person replaced a white person it wasn't captured in their relatively basic math calculation.

The result was still impressively biased. They were directionally correct. But 94% was always an insane figure.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2023-black-lives-matter-equal-opportunity-corporate-diversity/

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norstadt's avatar

Full quote: The year after Black Lives Matter protests, the S&P 100 added more than 300,000 jobs — 94% went to people of color.

They are obviously talking about net numbers. That's not a debunking. It's you learning how to read.

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Scott Tucker's avatar

If 1 million white people retired and 1 million white people replaced them in those jobs and then 1 black person was also hired, they could report it as 100% of jobs going to POC by that logic.

It was poor analysis and a bad headline.

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Incompatible Component's avatar

Thank you for the links.

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Charlos R.'s avatar

What’s the song in the intro? I dig it. Keep up the good work Dudley.

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G. J. Renier's avatar

The Units - High Pressure Days

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Craig Carpenter II's avatar

Reminds me of the “I.T. Crowd” intro

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Shade of Achilles's avatar

At 58:54 does Inez mean the usual pipelines or (((the usual pipelines)))

If the latter, maybe a good idea would be to block em off a bit so that the Appalachian kidz have a better chance. It's all very well to talk about DEI but (((the usual pipelines)))--which notably are not under DEI aegis--seem to have slipped out of 'the conversation' recently somehow for some reason who knows why that might be.

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Incompatible Component's avatar

If she's playfully hinting at it then I feel she's being way too subtle about it. In some ways it seems to me Stepman sometimes falls into the kind of intellectual elitism discussed in the REN segment. If such a (((pipeline))) is real then she's well aware of it.

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Shade of Achilles's avatar

Of course she's aware of it. It's me who's being coy. I'm saying the nu mischling right should be a bit more honest and vigilant (check their privilege, if you like). Sure I understand that owing to DEI elite admissions are being closed off to banker-Americans too. But, if the mischlings want to be fellow whites for real, they should act in the interests of their fellow whites--no agenda-smuggling allowed.

In other words the mischlings shouldn't be bothered about declining prospects for banker-Americans in academia. They--and everybody else really--should instead openly acknowledge that tribal nepotism *still* exists and that it works along with DEI to keep talented rednecks out. Lamentably though, the more mischling-influenced the new right becomes, the less is said about nepotism.

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